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Quasus

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« Ответ #15 : 21 Май 2010, 16:08:58 »
Nūlla ratiō mihi placuit. Крутой Suam propriam ratiōnem ōlim excōgitāvī, nempe a b v g d je/e jo/io zh z i j k l m n o p r s t u f h c ch sh sch - y -/' e ju/iu ja/ia. Post cōnsonantem litteram я, ё, ю redduntur ut ia, io, iu; post vōcālem et in initio ut ja, jo, ju (eōdem modō atque in Polonicā scrīptūra). Signī "dūrō" omnīnō nōn est opus, quia modo ad cōnsonantem vōcalemque sēparandās ūsūrpātur, quod aptissimē per j efficitur. Etiam: сход - s-hod, пиала - piiala.

Hāc ratiōne fere nuncuam ūtor. Scrībo ut in mentem mihi venit, velut `verch' prō верх: collēga meus nōn poterat invenīre quidnam hoc `верч' sibi vellet dōnec īnfrā `niz' scrīberem. Веселый (Dē programmandō quōdam agitur.)
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« Ответ #16 : 21 Май 2010, 16:12:02 »
Sī vīs, Colloquium inīre possumus. Nesciō quid agitēmus, sed saltem alter alterum salūtābumus.
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« Ответ #17 : 21 Май 2010, 16:24:02 »
Sī vīs, Colloquium inīre possumus. Nesciō quid agitēmus, sed saltem alter alterum salūtābumus.

Cēterum, melius aliās id faciāmus. Nunc autem cubitum eō: multō māne hodie ēvigilāvī.
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« Ответ #18 : 22 Май 2010, 15:58:19 »
Ego anteā iī cubitum. Улыбающийся

Sī tantum dē nōminibus Rossicīs dīcimus, mihi ISO 9 documentum (vel potius "praescrīptum" dicere?) placet: ūna littera Rossica - ūna littera Rōmāna (vel Latīna).
Et Avītus scrīpsit:
Цитата: Ex SLU forō
> My Russian surname is Жигулин. In English the traditional transliteration of Ж is as Zh (IPA [ʐ] or [ʒ]), i.e. Zhigulin. But in Slavonic languages which use the Latin alphabet (e.g. Czech) the equivalent sound is rather transliterated as Ž.
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> Should I transliterate my surname as Zhigulinus or as Žigulinus? What variant of non-Latin sounds transliteration is preferable? Through the diacritic or the cluster?

A very interesting question indeed for all those whose vernaculars don't use the Latin alphabet. My first recommendation is in principle to forget about any other languages (e.g. Czech) and to concentrate on your own vernacular (Russian here) … although in this case the result is going to be the same. In the same line, forget also about specific English practices. This is about Latin, not about English. Turn your attention instead towards international standards.

Now, there is a so called "scientific" transliteration of Russian:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_transliteration
This uses ž for the letter you are talking about.

More important than that, there is the International Organisation for Standardisation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization
Their recommendations should by the way be followed in fact not only for Russian but also for any other language with a different alphabet. The ISO also endorses the very same way of transliteration of that letter in particular:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian

It seems quite obvious to me therefore that your Russian surname should in Latin be Žigulinus and not Zhigulinus.

Please everyone read and consider these articles carefully:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization
And in particular:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_romanizations
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